[help needed] Honda OBD1 Trigger Settings/Timing Drift Issue

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Honda OBD1 Trigger Settings/Timing Drift Issue

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Hello, I just got a uaefi setup recently and am having issues with timing drift as I increase rpm. The car is a 92 honda accord with an h22a engine. It has a 24 tooth wheel for the trigger rpm signal in the distributor and another wheel that has 4 teeth for sync. With a fixed timing angle, I can adjust the offset to match the fixed angle of 15 degrees at idle but any change in rpm dramatically advances the timing.

I have tried both a rising edge, and falling edge input capture, and also tried changing the polarity of the vr sensors then retested both falling and rising edge again. It is a distributor setup with a single coil, testing the timing with the light connected to the #1 spark plug lead. I have a few years experience with tuning but this is my first time wiring in a standalone ecu so the trigger input are still new to me.
I also tried adjusting the vr sensor threshold table up and down +-1.5v with no change

The car idles smooth with the rising edge input capture but I could hear audible detonation while driving :shock:
I have a hondata s300 v3 that I tuned previously with this car and switching back to it the car runs perfectly again and timing does what it's supposed to.

Pretty stumped at this point and would love some help, especially anyone who has a successfully running obd1 Honda on uaefi using the built in VR conditioners

Attached is screenshots of a trigger capture log, screenshots of my trigger settings, VR threshold and also the wiring schematic showing how I wired everything. Also the whole tune file in case there's a setting I'm missing. Thanks in advance!
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Re: Honda OBD1 Trigger Settings/Timing Drift Issue

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Re: Honda OBD1 Trigger Settings/Timing Drift Issue

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ZayTuned wrote:
Sun May 12, 2024 4:07 pm
It has a 24 tooth wheel for the trigger rpm signal in the distributor and another wheel that has 4 teeth for sync.
Would it be safe to assume that you did not hit "OBD1" preset and probably have wrong trigger setup?

See also https://github.com/rusefi/rusefi/wiki/All-Supported-Triggers#12-crank24-crank
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Re: Honda OBD1 Trigger Settings/Timing Drift Issue

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I built up the basemap from scratch so when I saw that button I assumed it would reset it back to a default set of settings, but I will go try that right now. Thanks!
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Re: Honda OBD1 Trigger Settings/Timing Drift Issue

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I had my trigger wired to the discrete VR and its supposed to go to the 9924 VR :(
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Re: Honda OBD1 Trigger Settings/Timing Drift Issue

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ZayTuned wrote:
Sun May 12, 2024 5:01 pm
I had my trigger wired to the discrete VR and its supposed to go to the 9924 VR :(
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