Fix for UAEFI sometimes not starting without USB connecteed

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Fix for UAEFI sometimes not starting without USB connecteed

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from discussion on discord:


5vp does not light up with just 12v below a certain battery voltage, causing a no-start condition

this was traced down to a severe enough drop at the main 5v regulator that would cause the main MCU to power down, aborting enabling 5vp, entering a loop.

fix is rather crude, but it's to force 5vp to initialize forcefully, MCU or not.

10k resistor between pin 7 and 5v rail, like in the picture.
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gurov wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:30 pm
this was traced down to a severe enough drop at the main 5v regulator that would cause the main MCU to power down, aborting enabling 5vp, entering a loop.
We still do not know real root cause right?

Similar looking boards one would work another would not, right? https://github.com/rusefi/uaefi/issues/59
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correct, still don't know the actual root cause, just breadcrumbs of symptoms with comparison to good board
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Re: Fix for UAEFI sometimes not starting without USB connecteed

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Not to necro an old thread but this might still be the case. Have a UAEFI hooked up to a bench power supply putting out 12v with nothing connected besided power and ground and it appears the 5v rail isn't firing up. When I plug in the usb to a laptop the 5v rail stays up even when removed. I don't have a variable power supply but it looks like even as low as 12.2 and I don't see it kick on. Can be a bit inconsistent though. I have had a case where I know the battery was low and the 5v line fired up fine, enough to bump start and get the generator spinning but not enough to use the starter.
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Re: Fix for UAEFI sometimes not starting without USB connecteed

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Anche la mia uaEFI personalizzata aveva il problema discusso in questo post
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Per risolvere il problema ho eliminato R141 e aggiunto R142 nel modulo mega-mcu-100
R141 R142 mega-mcu-100.png
con questa modifica funziona perfettamente.

non sò se è la soluzione corretta, non ne ho trovate altre.
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