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Hellen compatibe with Bosch 17.9.7 and siblings

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2023 2:17 pm
by AndreyB
Little square 112 pin ECU used both on Indian bikes as in https://www.indianmotorcycle.com/ and Indian cars as in https://www.marutisuzuki.com/ with Polaris, UAZ and VAZ in between.

https://github.com/rusefi/hellen-112-17
https://rusefi.com/docs/pinouts/hellen/hellen-112-17/

Maybe one day we should make an open source design simply because of how widely this platform is used, maybe one day.

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Re: Bosch 17.9.7 and siblings

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2023 5:14 am
by AndreyB
Header is available new one of the part numbers is CKK112P-K

Re: Bosch 17.9.7 and siblings

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:36 pm
by Mikhail_U
What is about circuit for me17-112-adapter?

Re: Bosch 17.9.7 and siblings

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 4:24 am
by AndreyB
Mikhail_U wrote:
Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:36 pm
What is about circuit for me17-112-adapter?
schematics is more or less just the pinout with IGBT https://github.com/rusefi/rusefi-hardware/blob/main/breakout-boards/adapter-board-me17-112-B-schematic.pdf

I am hesitant to release gerbers for the adapter since I do not want too many people to start using the adapter instead of pushing for a proper me17 hellen. My plan is to revisit the plan in a month from now depending on how much me17 progress is made.

Re: Bosch 17.9.7 and siblings

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:10 am
by Mikhail_U
What is a "proper me17 hellen"? What it means?

Re: Bosch 17.9.7 and siblings

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 7:29 am
by AndreyB
Mikhail_U wrote:
Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:10 am
What is a "proper me17 hellen"? What it means?
it means "single PCB plug and play ECU which uses original vehicle connector and usually fits inside original case"

like https://github.com/rusefi/rusefi/wiki/Hellen-154-Hyundai or https://github.com/rusefi/rusefi/wiki/Hellen-88-BMW

Re: Bosch 17.9.7 and siblings

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 8:41 am
by Mikhail_U
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Not used in VAZ/UAZ, but used on your https://rusefi.com/docs/pinouts/hellen/hellen-112-17/?connector=H-112&pin=201
Error?

Re: Bosch 17.9.7 and siblings

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 8:03 pm
by AndreyB

Re: Bosch 17.9.7 and siblings

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 11:13 pm
by AndreyB

Re: Bosch 17.9.7 and siblings

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2023 2:45 pm
by Dron_Gus
Too thin wire for ground return?

Re: Bosch 17.9.7 and siblings

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2023 2:51 pm
by AndreyB
Dron_Gus wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2023 2:45 pm
Too thin wire for ground return?
Smoke was probably my fault - I've unhooked the superseal plug with power GND while vehicle was on.

Re: Bosch 17.9.7 and siblings

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2023 4:24 pm
by Dron_Gus
AndreyB wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2023 2:51 pm
Smoke was probably my fault - I've unhooked the superseal plug with power GND while vehicle was on.
Anyway wire looks to thin for power GND for 4 ingition transistors.

Re: Hellen compatibe with Bosch 17.9.7 and siblings

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 5:49 pm
by AndreyB
we now have an open source ECU compatible with that pinout https://github.com/rusefi/hellen-112-17

Re: Hellen compatibe with Bosch 17.9.7 and siblings

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 5:23 pm
by AndreyB
Waiting for harness components to actually test this further

Re: Hellen compatibe with Bosch 17.9.7 and siblings

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 7:31 pm
by AndreyB