Uber simple no PC ECU
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:04 am
Can a really simple, no PC ECU be created? Think screw driver programmed ECU.
In slack @kb1gtt commented about a 555 based ECU. @mck1117 mentioned the bosch D-jetronic was a discrete components ECU. I see the D-jetronic is fairly well defined in the below. link.
https://www.sw-em.com/bosch_d-jetronic_injection.htm
This looks like it uses the distributor to create astable pulses, then some circuits create the fuel injector mon-stable pulses. I feel that with a hot wire MAF, you could make a better design. I like the option of being linked to the crank angle, but I don't like that this adds complications. If we negate the crank angle sync, at least for now, I think we could make a fairly simple ECU. Basically MAF to small circuit, to fuel injector. You could adjust rich vs lean with a potentiometer. A second potentiometer could be used to adjust for XTau compensations. Eventually an IAT or CLT could also modify the analog signal to increase or decrease the pulse length at times. For now, I'm tempted to make an uber simple design, then add features to it at a later date.
If a MAF is used to create an analog voltage, you could potentially use an 555 chip configured as an astable oscillator to create the varying duty cycle that creates the varying pulses for the fuel injector.
The below MAF is aprox $20 USD, and would work for smaller engines.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32825683844.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.564b7b9fxdpXMz&algo_pvid=88f5218f-93df-4ad9-a213-1e12e7fcb0b5&algo_expid=88f5218f-93df-4ad9-a213-1e12e7fcb0b5-7&btsid=0ab6fa7b15907064739767637e46df&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_
Basically send that signal into this circuit, and you have pulses based on the amount of air flow.
https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/463012/555-pwm-motor-driver-controlled-by-external-analog-signal Take note that 555's are commonly found in 18V variants, so you do not need a 5V or 3.3V regulators. Just clamp your 12V to be below 18V and your good to go with a 555 circuit.
Any how, I just wanted to create some discussion points that will survive longer term than slack.
In slack @kb1gtt commented about a 555 based ECU. @mck1117 mentioned the bosch D-jetronic was a discrete components ECU. I see the D-jetronic is fairly well defined in the below. link.
https://www.sw-em.com/bosch_d-jetronic_injection.htm
This looks like it uses the distributor to create astable pulses, then some circuits create the fuel injector mon-stable pulses. I feel that with a hot wire MAF, you could make a better design. I like the option of being linked to the crank angle, but I don't like that this adds complications. If we negate the crank angle sync, at least for now, I think we could make a fairly simple ECU. Basically MAF to small circuit, to fuel injector. You could adjust rich vs lean with a potentiometer. A second potentiometer could be used to adjust for XTau compensations. Eventually an IAT or CLT could also modify the analog signal to increase or decrease the pulse length at times. For now, I'm tempted to make an uber simple design, then add features to it at a later date.
If a MAF is used to create an analog voltage, you could potentially use an 555 chip configured as an astable oscillator to create the varying duty cycle that creates the varying pulses for the fuel injector.
The below MAF is aprox $20 USD, and would work for smaller engines.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32825683844.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.564b7b9fxdpXMz&algo_pvid=88f5218f-93df-4ad9-a213-1e12e7fcb0b5&algo_expid=88f5218f-93df-4ad9-a213-1e12e7fcb0b5-7&btsid=0ab6fa7b15907064739767637e46df&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_
Basically send that signal into this circuit, and you have pulses based on the amount of air flow.
https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/463012/555-pwm-motor-driver-controlled-by-external-analog-signal Take note that 555's are commonly found in 18V variants, so you do not need a 5V or 3.3V regulators. Just clamp your 12V to be below 18V and your good to go with a 555 circuit.
Any how, I just wanted to create some discussion points that will survive longer term than slack.