99 Honda VFR800, PnP ECU NOW turbo EVENTUALLY

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Re: 1999 Honda VFR800, PnP ECU & Turbo eventually™

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I have a pogo pin adapter but stupidly left my STlink at work and can't flash anything until next week
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coolantbongrips wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:38 pm
can't flash anything
Main MCU would take firmware via USB in DFU mode? if you had USB soldered?
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Re: 1999 Honda VFR800, PnP ECU & Turbo eventually™

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Do you know part numbers for those while and black ECU headers for me to add on https://github.com/rusefi/rusefi/wiki/OEM-connectors?
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Re: 1999 Honda VFR800, PnP ECU & Turbo eventually™

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AndreyB wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 2:41 am
Do you know part numbers for those while and black ECU headers for me to add on https://github.com/rusefi/rusefi/wiki/OEM-connectors?
I don't. All I know is they're made by sumitomo and don't appear in any of the 90s/2000s era catalogs I was able to find, nor have I or anyone else been able to find a part number.

I got them by emailing ignitech@ignitech.cz and asking to buy 10 of each color since they sell ECUs and ignition controllers for other bikes with this style of connector
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Re: 99 Honda VFR800, PnP ECU NOW turbo EVENTUALLY

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As far as I can tell the ECU works save for possibly having to tune the VR input. I uploaded a new tune and datalog to rusEFI online, trigger error was incrementing but the trigger events in the log looked okay. I won't have time to troubleshoot until tonight.
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coolantbongrips wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:27 pm
As far as I can tell the ECU works save for possibly having to tune the VR input. I uploaded a new tune and datalog to rusEFI online, trigger error was incrementing but the trigger events in the log looked okay. I won't have time to troubleshoot until tonight.
Never mind I'm a dumbass and was interpreting the log wrong, it starts if I give it some throttle and runs but won't idle. I'll try and work out something resembling a tune this weekend
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Re: 99 Honda VFR800, PnP ECU NOW turbo EVENTUALLY

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Project stalled for the forseeable future, I broke a rod or something
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coolantbongrips wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 1:00 am
Project stalled for the forseeable future, I broke a rod or something
While cranking? While revving? While not rusEFIing?
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Re: 99 Honda VFR800, PnP ECU NOW turbo EVENTUALLY

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AndreyB wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 1:05 am
coolantbongrips wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 1:00 am
Project stalled for the forseeable future, I broke a rod or something
While cranking? While revving? While not rusEFIing?
While cranking, I don't even know when exactly it happened and the last time it ran it was on the stock ECU. I plugged the rusEFI back in tonight to test some things, tried to start it, and now I'm getting some horrible noise. I'll dig deeper into it tomorrow
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Re: 99 Honda VFR800, PnP ECU NOW turbo EVENTUALLY

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Just for the record, proper "CBR 600" setup would look something like

https://github.com/rusefi/rusefi/issues/6420
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Re: 99 Honda VFR800, PnP ECU NOW turbo EVENTUALLY

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tl;dr: VR sensor signal is out of range of VR Discrete, what value should the damping resistor be?
I replaced the engine in my bike and have been slowly poking away at getting this running. I can get it started with some throttle, but it sounds like it's misfiring and doesn't want to idle. When checking the logs in tunerstudio, I noticed that the cam position sensor appeared to be occasionally dropping out.
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On my board this signal is routed to the VR Discrete module. At first I suspected the dropout had something to do with the half amplitude pulse causing the VR conditioner to trip up somehow but upon further investigation according to https://github.com/andreika-git/hellen-one/wiki/module-vr-discrete it looks like the limits for the VR Discrete module inputs are +2.5 and -1.6V, which are less than the +-3.5V signal I've logged while cranking.


I noticed the schematic shows an unpopulated resistor for damping hot signals which I want to populate to see if this fixes the problem, but I can't find a value for this resistor anywhere.
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Is there an official value for this resistor, or does it have to be found through experimentation?
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And in less important news I have two completed ECUs in ultra shit quality 3d printed cases. My goals of having a plug and play ECU that fits in the stock location are achieved even if the ECU doesn't entirely work yet!

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Re: 99 Honda VFR800, PnP ECU NOW turbo EVENTUALLY

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coolantbongrips wrote:
Wed May 15, 2024 2:19 am
Is there an official value for this resistor, or does it have to be found through experimentation?

https://github.com/rusefi/uaefi/issues/65
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Re: 99 Honda VFR800, PnP ECU NOW turbo EVENTUALLY

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Nice, I'll install some 5k resistors tomorrow and see if that fixes it
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