Another rusEFI K4M build, 1986 Renault 4 swap
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:51 pm
Hi everyone !
Here to present my second RUSEFI project running a Renault K4M engine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_K-Type_engine) using Proteus board. Proteus is way way overkill for this project but I have one spare so why not use it ?
So the engine is currently experiencing maintenance as I bought it in a highly unknown state. What I planned to do so far is disassembling head to check what cylinders looks like as I have a "stuck" valve, replacing timing belt because it is in bad shape, replacing water pump, checking what's inside oil pan, cleaning everything inside with diesel fuel and do standard maintenance like plugs (1 of them is corroded because water was sitting inside the plug well). On the electrical side of things, I strpped the engine completely to rebuild a custom harness using a main engine connector to allow for easier engine swapping inside the car. I retained OEM coils as I had the chance to find Nippon-Denso unit on the engine instead of the faulty SAGEM ones. Only culprit being these coils are "dumb" units with very little seriesresistance (.5 Ohms) that I'll drive using custom coil drivers i already proved was working on the original R4 engine. The trigger was a bit tricky due to the available choice of flywheels and the fact timing belt pullies are free floating when not tight. I decided to go for 180mm and then 190mm RENIX flywheels found on Cléon-Fonte engines from Renault 5 Alpine and Renault Super5. These are 44-2-2 symmetrical pattern flywheel and thus need a cam sensor to even have wasted spark capabilities. Cam sensor will be mounted using a modified Renault Energy engine distributor that I'll also use to drive alternator from the flwheel side. Both trigger sensors are Cherry-ZF hall units, GS 1005 and GS 1007.
I also made a custom fuel rail to install nippon-denso injectors taken from my NB2 miata (265cc/min) instead of standard marelli units because I broke one during dissasembly (brittle plastic and shitty design). This rail is made of universal fuel rail extrusion from Aliexpress and will be capped with 1/4" NPT threads to accomodate for the feeding line on one side and regulator on the other. The fuel is originally pumped by a mechanical driven fuel pump, and will now be raised into a 1.5L surge tank using membrane pump and then feeding a 155LPH "high pressure" external fuel pump up to the rail. As for the swap candidate, it is a 1986 Renault 4 GTL, better known in France as the "Renault 4L", very iconic car that lived from 1961 all the way until 1992 when emissions regulations killed it. I originally bought it with a friend to participate in a raid in Marrocco and decided to keep it as Ifound it very fun and rewarding to drive. The original engine is a 1100cc Cléon-Fonte unit producing a whopping 34hp at the crank, currently equipped with a Renault 5 GTL distributor and carburetor that push it to 45hp. A gearbox swap has to happen soon too, as I'll be using a 5 speed gearbox from a Renault 5 Alpine Turbo (NG5), along with custom front axles and upgraded suspensions. Some chassis work is needed to fit both the gearbox and the engine, the damper pulley on the K4M interfering with the cabin and the nose of the gearbox being 10cm in front of front member.
A full cage has to be fitted for my own safety and to stiffen the car a bit, considering how filmsy the cabin is and especially how easy it separates from the chassis in abnormal conditions.
Will keep this thread updated with how this build goes, starting with some engine on a bench and then moving into the car.
For very good info on K4M and RUSEFI see this thread from JPh : https://rusefi.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1673
See you soon
Gwendal
Here to present my second RUSEFI project running a Renault K4M engine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_K-Type_engine) using Proteus board. Proteus is way way overkill for this project but I have one spare so why not use it ?
So the engine is currently experiencing maintenance as I bought it in a highly unknown state. What I planned to do so far is disassembling head to check what cylinders looks like as I have a "stuck" valve, replacing timing belt because it is in bad shape, replacing water pump, checking what's inside oil pan, cleaning everything inside with diesel fuel and do standard maintenance like plugs (1 of them is corroded because water was sitting inside the plug well). On the electrical side of things, I strpped the engine completely to rebuild a custom harness using a main engine connector to allow for easier engine swapping inside the car. I retained OEM coils as I had the chance to find Nippon-Denso unit on the engine instead of the faulty SAGEM ones. Only culprit being these coils are "dumb" units with very little seriesresistance (.5 Ohms) that I'll drive using custom coil drivers i already proved was working on the original R4 engine. The trigger was a bit tricky due to the available choice of flywheels and the fact timing belt pullies are free floating when not tight. I decided to go for 180mm and then 190mm RENIX flywheels found on Cléon-Fonte engines from Renault 5 Alpine and Renault Super5. These are 44-2-2 symmetrical pattern flywheel and thus need a cam sensor to even have wasted spark capabilities. Cam sensor will be mounted using a modified Renault Energy engine distributor that I'll also use to drive alternator from the flwheel side. Both trigger sensors are Cherry-ZF hall units, GS 1005 and GS 1007.
I also made a custom fuel rail to install nippon-denso injectors taken from my NB2 miata (265cc/min) instead of standard marelli units because I broke one during dissasembly (brittle plastic and shitty design). This rail is made of universal fuel rail extrusion from Aliexpress and will be capped with 1/4" NPT threads to accomodate for the feeding line on one side and regulator on the other. The fuel is originally pumped by a mechanical driven fuel pump, and will now be raised into a 1.5L surge tank using membrane pump and then feeding a 155LPH "high pressure" external fuel pump up to the rail. As for the swap candidate, it is a 1986 Renault 4 GTL, better known in France as the "Renault 4L", very iconic car that lived from 1961 all the way until 1992 when emissions regulations killed it. I originally bought it with a friend to participate in a raid in Marrocco and decided to keep it as Ifound it very fun and rewarding to drive. The original engine is a 1100cc Cléon-Fonte unit producing a whopping 34hp at the crank, currently equipped with a Renault 5 GTL distributor and carburetor that push it to 45hp. A gearbox swap has to happen soon too, as I'll be using a 5 speed gearbox from a Renault 5 Alpine Turbo (NG5), along with custom front axles and upgraded suspensions. Some chassis work is needed to fit both the gearbox and the engine, the damper pulley on the K4M interfering with the cabin and the nose of the gearbox being 10cm in front of front member.
A full cage has to be fitted for my own safety and to stiffen the car a bit, considering how filmsy the cabin is and especially how easy it separates from the chassis in abnormal conditions.
Will keep this thread updated with how this build goes, starting with some engine on a bench and then moving into the car.
For very good info on K4M and RUSEFI see this thread from JPh : https://rusefi.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1673
See you soon
Gwendal