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Honda SC35 trigger sync issues

Posted: Mon May 29, 2023 4:15 pm
by Gorfest-n
Hi
There is no stable synchronization during cranking - it can hit TDC correctly, it can miss by 90-180 degrees - full random.
If it hits TDC then the engine starts and runs great.

ECU alphax-4chan, Honda motorcycle four-stroke engine.
Crank - 36 tooth VR.
Cam - 1 tooth VR.
Additional capacitors are installed in both VR modules, adjusting the VR sensor threshold does not help.

https://rusefi.com/online/view.php?msq=1477

The 36 tooth trigger is not original, I also have the original 12 tooth trigger - same problems. I have logs for him too if needed.

Re: Honda SC35 trigger sync issues

Posted: Mon May 29, 2023 9:01 pm
by AndreyB
instant RPM is definitely telling us _something_

I think I can see uneven duration of primary rise counter? Something is not right with hardware outside or inside of ECU :( At the moment we do not log tooth ratios for wheels without a synchronization point like this 36/0 so we are a bit more blind for such special wheels.
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Re: Honda SC35 trigger sync issues

Posted: Mon May 29, 2023 10:28 pm
by Gorfest-n
Here is a log with a 12-teeth crank and 1-tooth cam wheels.
From a factory, this motor comes with the 12-teeth crankshaft and a 3-teeth camshaft wheels (but it’s not available now).

Does it makes sense to remove 1 tooth from a 36-teeth wheel and turn on/off a camshaft sensor with the 1-tooth wheel?