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rusefi.com The most advanced open source ECU 2022-04-25T19:00:13 https://www.rusefi.com/forum/app.php/feed/topic/2313 2022-04-25T19:00:13 2022-04-25T19:00:13 https://www.rusefi.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2313&p=45102#p45102 <![CDATA[Re: AC Idle up]]> Statistics: Posted by Kristian — Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:00 pm


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2022-04-25T04:46:46 2022-04-25T04:46:46 https://www.rusefi.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2313&p=45096#p45096 <![CDATA[Re: AC Idle up]]> image.pngThese settings say:

- Set idle position to 28% * CLT adjust table
- Add 5% if AC is on
- Add 100 RPM to the closed loop target if AC is on
- Add 100% if fan 1 is on (?)

That last one doesn't look right to me - do you really want to add 100% (ie, max the idle valve fully open) if the fan is on?

Statistics: Posted by mck1117 — Mon Apr 25, 2022 4:46 am


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2022-04-24T10:02:43 2022-04-24T10:02:43 https://www.rusefi.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2313&p=45080#p45080 <![CDATA[Re: AC Idle up]]> 1. the idle up that I had noticed wasn't AC, but fan 1, obviously, becuase AC turns Fan1 on, I hadn't noticed the less obvious connection. When testing the Fan1 output from the base engine tab, with AC off, the RPM would rocket upto 3000 odd RPM, removing the association with the AC meant the engine didn't spool up, rather loaded down and nearly stalled when AC was turned on. When Fan 1 comes on, the idle valve position goes from, say 17, to 40, then oscillates quite rapidly between 40-100%.

the second interesting thing I discovered was a let-off table that in the idle tab that I thought was disabled (I had turned open loop idle to on, which greyed out this option, but left on true) it seemed to follow this table (which was 40% for all values.) modifying these down to 30, caused idle oscillations to occur, so even though the option was greyed out because of openloop idle, modifying this table had an impact on the car. I could also swear that as I was driving a long, small power surges could be felt after a gentle press of the gas peddle. I went to the enrichment tab and found a lot of it greyed out. However I suspect it may it might still be using some of the figures.

So from here, still a bit of work to do understanding how this works, when tables are being used and when not, and try to understand the link between fan 1 and the mystery 3000 RPM 'idle" (even thou the idle tab shows a 100rpm increase for fan 1)

Statistics: Posted by Kristian — Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:02 am


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2022-04-23T10:09:41 2022-04-23T10:09:41 https://www.rusefi.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2313&p=45075#p45075 <![CDATA[AC Idle up]]> I've added the tune and log file to online. https://rusefi.com/online/view.php?msq=966

Thanks in advance

The car is a 91, normally aspirated M5, relatively stock with an AFM delete. its running mid grade 95 RON (which might be your 89). Side note, for comparison most cars in this part of the world run 91 RON (lowest) and most stations sell 91, 95/98 and 98 with 10% ethanol.

Statistics: Posted by Kristian — Sat Apr 23, 2022 10:09 am


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